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Why I DONT Recommend 5×5 And Most Beginner Programs

November 20, 2016 by warrioradmin 39 Comments


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Comments

  1. enigmaHD says

    January 26, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    Serious and really true talk! Keep going with video like this. 

    Reply
  2. cumshotoftheweek says

    January 26, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    Hmm….

    Reply
  3. neverlastingworld says

    January 26, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    George is that an ear piercing?! Looks pretty badass! 

    Reply
  4. Josh brennan says

    January 26, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    First
    

    Reply
  5. Aesthetic Power says

    January 26, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    DAT thumbnail face tho

    Reply
  6. ry4nx says

    January 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    Crazy that this channel only has 31k subs, i say this alot but, really
    underrated channel.

    on a side note: do u happen to have any tracklists of your favourite songs
    to listen to while working out? love that song at the end.

    Reply
  7. LHudson TV says

    January 26, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    Great vid man and you are a fellow flame head! Internet high five 

    Reply
  8. T Harris says

    January 26, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    Recommend a program then

    Reply
  9. Isak says

    January 26, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Love how you think outside the box

    Reply
  10. Sam McKay says

    January 26, 2015 at 11:07 pm

    Hi George, nice to hear your thoughts on this. Here are mine:

    I’m going to use Starting Strength as the beginner program I reference most
    in this post because it is the one I am most familiar with.

    You list a number of issues with beginner programs. Two major complaints
    being that they don’t get you strong enough fast enough and that they get
    too hard too fast. Lets start with the first one. A complete novice to
    lifting who starts on Starting Strength will add 10 pounds to their squat
    every session as long as they can. Perhaps this won’t be long, maybe only
    the first week or two of training. That is already 30-60 pounds added to
    their 3×5. Then progress slows to 5 pounds a workout. Still certainly a
    good rate of improvement.

    Your next complaint is that these program often get too hard too fast. On
    Starting Strength, once it becomes clear the progression 3 times a week is
    not attainable, a light squat workout replaces the second squat workout
    during the week to give the lifter some rest. This leaves progression at 10
    lbs a week, even after much progress has already been made. In fact,
    Starting Strength gives a vast number of options for the lifter who begins
    to stall. On top of this, it is very easy to transition into the Texas
    method from starting strength, which does have room for accessory movements
    and individual differences.

    See, George, I think the problem is most lifters don’t read the book
    Starting Strength and don’t understand how versatile it is. Perhaps you
    have not read the book, or maybe you have, I can’t say for sure. However to
    say that beginner programs in general have these downsides based on the
    hypothetical program you outline in this video is pretty strange. For a
    complete novice who can’t afford a coach, Starting Strength outlines one of
    the fastest ways to progress with countless options as progress slows.

    Do I think a good coach can be superior? Yes, I do think that’s very
    possible, however most people do not have the means to afford this and
    quite frankly, for a novice to strength training a coach does not have a
    very good cost to benefit ratio. 

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  11. Andrew says

    January 26, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    Yeah but 5×5 is good for beginners because beginners don’t want to push
    themselves to failure at the start because they are still learning the
    technique. It’s better for them to ingrain the technique with relatively
    high volume and moderate intensity and stay away from going to failure so
    they can avoid form breakdown.

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  12. Clarkstowns Finest says

    January 26, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    George keep the videos coming in this format, it’s much easier to watch!

    Reply
  13. Kal El says

    January 26, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    George your content is amazing. And I love it, however I’m a college
    student and I can’t afford online coaching. Would you ever release a free 3
    day a week program? Thanks. 

    Reply
  14. Elliott Steele says

    January 26, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    True that. My diet isnt the best, some days i eat so shitty i feel bad. But
    i still can deadlift 500;)

    Reply
  15. goygoy says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:03 am

    Good video as always, will definitely incorporate this in my routine.

    Reply
  16. Eddy Cuevas says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:18 am

    i love how ur always helping us for free george its awesome man thanks! ill
    show my
    support by buying a shirt or something 

    Reply
  17. Jack Lifts says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:29 am

    George you’re never very clear on your training philosophy other than
    “using high reps and peaking to lower rep ranges as the weights get
    heavier”. Could you make a detailed video explaining why and possibly a
    sample program you’d recommend? I understand what you do, but idk how it
    works, and it seems interesting.

    Reply
  18. ThirstyMonkeyNicca says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:39 am

    The only way for me to increase in strength is to always attempt my
    heaviest even if its only 4-5 reps. I was plateauing hard on high reps. 

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  19. bigtonutz says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:40 am

    that is why I love wendlers program you push the last set for a pr if
    possible. then use some of your first set last for more volume if you up to
    it.

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  20. bigtonutz says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:42 am

    all of that doesn’t mean that I will ever be as strong as George either.
    make slow progress over time. hit a plateau? lower the weight and start
    again and try to beat what you did the last time.if this was easy everone
    would do it.

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  21. jetski Dex says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:46 am

    excellent point!! 

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  22. Joseph Tyson says

    January 27, 2015 at 12:52 am

    The infamous stronglifts 5×5 is a bad programme but progressively
    overloaded sets of 5 are one of the fastest ways to progress as a beginner,
    in my opinion. In my view, high reps are good for bench,overhead and
    accessory movements but i dont think that stuff like high rep deadlifts or
    squats are the best way to get stronger .A once a week AMRAP set for a
    beginner is not the best or fastest way to get stronger in my opinion.

    Reply
  23. Patoismastah says

    January 27, 2015 at 1:59 am

    this is spot on

    Reply
  24. preston0808 says

    January 27, 2015 at 2:19 am

    Agree… 5×5 is complete crap 

    Reply
  25. ghy48 says

    January 27, 2015 at 4:02 am

    I don’t know man, Texas Method works pretty well for me

    Reply
  26. Zachary Tan says

    January 27, 2015 at 4:23 am

    your max goes up once you go to 275 5×5 from 240

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  27. Najda says

    January 27, 2015 at 4:54 am

    When you say high rep ranges what range are you talking about? 8-12? 12-16?

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  28. Eric. N says

    January 27, 2015 at 4:58 am

    Hey Goerge what happened to making workouts vids in your home gym ? those
    were awsome man 

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  29. Twodiverse says

    January 27, 2015 at 5:02 am

    Looking big and lean George!!! I starting doing sets of 10 on squats and is
    so fucking hard “high” reps!

    Reply
  30. Solomon"supersoul"prince says

    January 27, 2015 at 6:15 am

    Great stuff

    Reply
  31. Frogboyattacks says

    January 27, 2015 at 6:35 am

    More proof Blaha is a fat know nothing idiot

    Reply
  32. Mason says

    January 27, 2015 at 11:02 am

    Hey George, huge fan of yours. I think that an overlooked aspect with
    something like a high volume program such as 5×5, is neurological and
    muscular efficiency. The constant repetition over time, along with proper
    form, reinforces proper motor patterns. It’s hard to perfect your form
    doing low rep programs at a higher percentage. I know for me personally, I
    prefer higher volume training, a lot of sets of moderate reps (5 or less)
    at a moderate intensity 70-80%. Perhaps you also feel the same way but
    misinterpreted, but I feel like form practice is just as important as
    actually getting stronger.

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  33. Andrew Scott says

    January 27, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    In this Era of powerlifting we’ve strayed away from what got us to this
    level of strength. We follow these trendy programs popularized by you
    tubers who are backed by some cool bearded guy who also happens to have an
    MD/Ph.d. “Hey check it out! My favorite you tuber is doing this new program
    and this hip, average looking Joe who happens to be a doctor is backing the
    science and research behind this program. Well, looks like I’m doing this
    program now. Without question.”
    I believe with every inch of my being that if more people would research Ed
    Coan on how to train efficiently and make steady progress, people wouldn’t
    plateau as much. It’s not about gimmicks. It’s just simple hard work,
    finding a good plan, and sticking to it.

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  34. Daniel West says

    January 27, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Although I don’t have the experience as you do, I personally think Starting
    Strength can help in STARTING strength. It helps you learn the technique,
    develop the confidence, build the stabilisation muscles necessary. Once
    you’ve gained some valuable lessons after a few months, maybe then you
    could move on to something more specific. 

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  35. Jason Sisti says

    January 27, 2015 at 1:54 pm

    George, what do you think about linear periodization, ed coan swears by it
    and it never let him down, however he was a freak. Do you think it’s any
    good?

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  36. Brandon Stephens says

    January 27, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    George what does your volume usually look like for your lifts at the end of
    your work out. 

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  37. Levi Morgan says

    January 28, 2015 at 2:08 am

    300 to 400 in a few months? What’s the one weird trick that I have to use
    to get that kind of PR?

    Reply
  38. Alexandru Lazlo says

    April 27, 2015 at 8:15 am

    I had the same problem

    Reply
  39. Alexandru Lazlo says

    April 27, 2015 at 8:18 am

    without high reps you run out of gas in the 4-th and fifth rep

    Reply

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